“I was just thinking, why should we defend this puppet president and government? He’s shut down four opposition TV channels, there were also journalists who mysteriously disappeared,” journo says.”It’s true that the current government isn’t perfect,” French pundit pushes back. “Maybe some journalists were indeed assassinated. But journalists are assassinated in other countries too.”

Source: Jamie White

Pundits in the French media did not react positively to a Ukrainian woman’s claims that her country’s “corrupt puppet government” was behind a great deal of her people’s suffering long before Russian forces arrived.

The woman named Victoria, a 25-year resident of Kiev, explained how the current Ukraine-Russia conflict is rooted in the 2014 western-backed coup d’état that resulted in the removal of democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych.

“The root of this conflict was already starting to show in 2014,” she said in French. “At least 2 million Ukrainians are living day to day in terrible conditions. This year’s heating bills are greater than before, yet wages are so low.”

“People here spend half their monthly wages on heating costs. Life is indeed difficult here. I was just thinking, why should we defend this puppet president and government?”

“I’m talking about the president we have now,” she added, referring to President Volodymyr Zelensky, “not the one Putin might be planning on installing.”

“Right now people on the internet are saying Ukrainians are in a difficult position. That’s indeed true. The government is changing nonstop. The economy is tanking, corruption is everywhere.”

At that point, the French pundits appeared confused about Victoria’s claims, whispering amongst themselves in disbelief.

“Are you talking about Zelensky?” one pundit asked.

Victoria replied: “Of course, who else?”

At that point, the pundits tried pushing back, claiming Zelensky was legitimately democratically elected in Ukraine.

“So you’re saying the democratically elected Zelensky is actually a puppet leader?” a pundit asked her.

“Yes. And he is by no means a democratic leader,” Victoria argued, noting Zelensky has “shut down four opposition TV channels” and “there were also journalists who mysteriously disappeared.”

“People say that Russian journalists are constantly killed, but Ukrainian journalists are killed as well. A lot of journalists have been killed these past few years. It’s complicated, it’s just that nobody talks about it,” she said.

The pundit then cut her off: “So according to what you said, please let me finish, as a Ukrainian who’s lived in both France and Ukraine, do you think the West idealizes Ukraine too much?”

“The West believes Russians are evil, while Ukraine is a wholesome democracy. But are things not this simple?” he asked.

Victoria confirmed that the situation is not “black and white.”

French pundits then murmured in disbelief amongst themselves until another pundit jumped in to counter Victoria’s testimony.

“This is the first time I’ve heard someone call a democratic country a puppet government,” he said before more bickering ensued among themselves while Victoria tried to get in a word edgewise.

The lead pundit quickly regained control and asked Victoria if some Ukrainians in Donbas are happy about the Russian invasion, to which she replied that indeed some were.

“Absolutely, and about our supposedly democratic government, many Ukrainians are suspicious about the validity of the election. Do you get it? The situation is complicated,” Victoria noted.

At that point, another pundit jumped in to defend Ukraine’s government, arguing that just because journalists are assassinated doesn’t mean that Ukraine isn’t a democracy.

“It’s true that the current government isn’t perfect. Maybe some journalists were indeed assassinated. But journalists are assassinated in other countries too. But you can’t say that because of this they [aren’t democratic],” he said. “Maybe the judicial system is flawed, but you can’t -“

More arguing ensued before the lead pundit began whitewashing Victoria’s statements.

“People tonight have strong feelings on this topic,” he said. “Many people have died in Ukraine. So some of you may hear ‘Ukraine’s system is failing, the government is corrupt, journalists are being killed’, it’s easy to be passionate.”

Victoria pushed back, saying she would not “support this government.”

“Just look at the economy, at the standard of living,” she said.

The first pundit dismissed her concerns and said Ukrainians should just “use democratic methods to change the government.”

“You can’t be like Russia and just invade,” he claimed.

But another commentator reminded the lead pundit of what Victoria said earlier: “Don’t forget that in February 2014 there was a coup d’état that overthrew the democratically elected president.”

Notably, that coup was financed in part by Hungarian billionaire George Soros through his Open Society Foundation to install the Western-friendly puppet president Petro Poroshenko, which resulted in a bloody years-long civil war between pro-western Ukrainians and pro-Russian separatists.